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LillyBlue

Whippet with upset tummy.

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2 hours ago, LillyBlue said:

Lilly came to us as a puppy with giardia and it has been spotted in earlier poo samples when she was younger. She's been on and off antibiotics all her little life. The last sample came back negative. Lilly was ill again Friday night but not so bad as before. She was ok Saturday and Sunday night. It was starting to look like she would be ill every other night!! We're going to keep writing in the diary this week and see how she is. I'm writing everything down. I hope it shows some kind of pattern.

Giardia can re occur. My dog had it, before I got him, and I was told that it makes the gut lining quite sensitive. This may be why my dog cannot tolerate bulky things like bone meal.  When my dog had diarrhoea, recently, my vet was ready to treat for Giardia again if the antibiotics had not worked. A vet nurse friend said that her dog had it and always did lots of small faeces throughout the day.

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14 hours ago, gypsysmum2 said:

Giardia can re occur. My dog had it, before I got him, and I was told that it makes the gut lining quite sensitive. This may be why my dog cannot tolerate bulky things like bone meal.  When my dog had diarrhoea, recently, my vet was ready to treat for Giardia again if the antibiotics had not worked. A vet nurse friend said that her dog had it and always did lots of small faeces throughout the day.

Lilly was ok last night! 3 nights sleep in a row. Bliss!

One of the vets said it may be that her tummy is harbouring Giardia and it's not getting killed off completely so it keeps coming back, but the tests say it's not showing up. He just wanted to control it with Tylosin when it flares up. I've been going along with this for awhile but now the flare ups are much more frequent. She's on antibiotics more than she's not. That's when I went to a different vet that gave her more Tylosin (bescaue it works) and the fibre pellets. Have to say the fibre pellets didn't make any difference. When she's well she does a morning poo (normal size) at about 11.30am then a lunchtime poo (sometimes 2 poos on one walk) at about 1.45pm then a tiny tiny poo (hardly worth the poo bag) at about 6.30pm. When ill she will have diarrhea every hour throughout the night, then no poos the next day. I don't know what the normal amount of pooing is that she should be doing.

I'm going to see how she is this week and keep writing the diary, then I'll have more information to tell the vet.

Thank you for your support.

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You say she is more like an Italian Greyhound than a Whippet so she is pooing quite a lot. This may sort itself out when you reduce the amount of food she has. When normal she can go from 6.30pm right through to 11.30am. That is quite a long time so it shows that she is able to hold on when she is well.

When they test for Giardia do they take several samples or just the one? You have noticed that the Tylosin works so is it that she is just re infecting with Giardia each time and that is why it is so intermittent? A friend told me that it is in the environment and can be picked up anywhere. Mostly damp places apparently. I am sure that my dog acquired it in the rescue kennels. Another friend's dog got if from a stray cat she took in.

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6 hours ago, gypsysmum2 said:

You say she is more like an Italian Greyhound than a Whippet so she is pooing quite a lot. This may sort itself out when you reduce the amount of food she has. When normal she can go from 6.30pm right through to 11.30am. That is quite a long time so it shows that she is able to hold on when she is well.

When they test for Giardia do they take several samples or just the one? You have noticed that the Tylosin works so is it that she is just re infecting with Giardia each time and that is why it is so intermittent? A friend told me that it is in the environment and can be picked up anywhere. Mostly damp places apparently. I am sure that my dog acquired it in the rescue kennels. Another friend's dog got if from a stray cat she took in.

She is a small whippet. Her mum was only 16" and Lilly seems a tiny bit smaller. She can hold it for a very long time! if it's raining she will hold it longer!! She does a last pee at 9.30-10pm but not a poo.

The vet asks for a sample from 3 different poos. The last test was from one of her nightly bouts. I picked them up in the morning from 3 different places. It could be that the bacteria died before it got to the vets if the antibiotics were still in her system? Can that happen? I walk her in the forest every lunchtime which is very muddy at the min. May be it's even still in my garden! What a minefield it is! Mushrooms, mouldy bread (we live next to a pond and people leave bread everywhere for the ducks and birds), acorns, Ivy, toads (we have one behind the shed and she barks at it at night) .... I'm suprised I've managed to keep her alive this long!! ha ha!

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I do so feel for you. Let's hope that something comes from you keeping a diary.

When Tigan had his diarrhoea recently the vet asked if he drank from puddles. He wouldn't go near a puddle, normally, in case he got his feet wet (ha ha) but he had been drinking from them just before the diarrhoea. Local dog walkers reported a spate of v + d in dogs and their vets had blamed it on "something in the soil" that happens in hot weather. Now, are these two things linked, and are the vets all talking about Giardia? I have asked the new moderators on this forum if they can recruit a vet or a vet nurse to explain all these things (I did work as a vet nurse when I first left school but I am not admitting how many years ago that was!)

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Ha ha Lilly's the same, doesn't like getting her feet wet. I know where the muddy puddles are on my walk so I'm quite good at keeping her from them. Odd occasions she has out smarted me but I've not known her to be ill on those occasions.

I think my vet latched on to the Giardia harbouring idea because nothing else has every shown up on the tests apart from this. But that was when she was 8 weeks old and again not long after that. She's 2 and a half now and still getting ill with negative test results. The last vet just said it could be anything and didn't seem worried. I think he's fed up of seeing me ha ha.

She was well last night, I'm hoping whatever it was is out of her system. But I can never relax because I'm always waiting for it to happen again. She's out with the dog walker today and last Wednesday night she was ill. Lets see what happens tonight.

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If your vet is fed up with seeing you then they start to think outside the box. Vets see cases of diarrhoea several times in each surgery session and there are at least two surgery sessions a day. They can become a bit blasé about it. If you keep seeing the same vet it may trigger them to think that this is not normal in any dog. If you think they are not taking you seriously then ask for a referral to a specialist. There are some neurotic owners out there and you just have to convince your vet that you are not one of them.

My old lurcher had a sore on her toe that just refused to heal. I took her to the vets' several times and they gave the usual advice about keeping it clean and preventing it from rubbing against the next toe (!). This entailed me dressing the foot several times a day. My back was killing me from all the bending and bandaging! I, eventually, asked for the clinical director of the practice when I next phoned for an appointment. I saw her a couple of times and she then became concerned about the non healing toe. She did bloods which threw up a thyroid problem and, eventually. a tumour on her adrenal gland was discovered. Such a tiny, tiny symptom, that I am sure I was labelled as being a bit neurotic over, was caused by a major problem.

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17 hours ago, gypsysmum2 said:

If your vet is fed up with seeing you then they start to think outside the box. Vets see cases of diarrhoea several times in each surgery session and there are at least two surgery sessions a day. They can become a bit blasé about it. If you keep seeing the same vet it may trigger them to think that this is not normal in any dog. If you think they are not taking you seriously then ask for a referral to a specialist. There are some neurotic owners out there and you just have to convince your vet that you are not one of them.

My old lurcher had a sore on her toe that just refused to heal. I took her to the vets' several times and they gave the usual advice about keeping it clean and preventing it from rubbing against the next toe (!). This entailed me dressing the foot several times a day. My back was killing me from all the bending and bandaging! I, eventually, asked for the clinical director of the practice when I next phoned for an appointment. I saw her a couple of times and she then became concerned about the non healing toe. She did bloods which threw up a thyroid problem and, eventually. a tumour on her adrenal gland was discovered. Such a tiny, tiny symptom, that I am sure I was labelled as being a bit neurotic over, was caused by a major problem.

What a good thing you kept going back! Our vets is a husband and wife team with one other vet employed. I've seem all three of them at some point. I agree the next time I go I'll ask to see a specialist. Lilly has now been well for 6 nights!! I'll keep you posted. Thank you for all your help and advice.

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